500px

Many photographers would have heard of 500px, a relatively new image hosting site, which focuses on high-quality work.  The site has existed since 2009, but has only become very popular in the last year or two.

The idea of 500px is that photographers upload their best work rather than use it as a generic dumping ground for images, which tends to be the case with other photography sites such as Flickr.

By all means, Flickr has some great images, and for me it is ‘home’, but it is used by many people who aren’t photographers as such, but like to upload 300 straight-from-camera images of the same house party (for instance).

For serious photographers, the key to any site is to surround oneself with the right people — people whose work is a source of inspiration or simple viewing pleasure.

The calibre of work on 500px is outstanding, but of course there is some mediocre snapshot-type material there too; although from what I have seen, there is far less of the latter.

I established my own presence on 500px in May.

The site works based on a popularity ranking system for images.  Viewers can vote and ‘fave’ images, and votes contribute to what 500px calls an image’s ‘pulse’.  This is a score from zero to 100, and naturally higher is better.

The more popular a photo becomes, the higher it moves up the ranks of the popular images section, which many photographers including myself use for inspiration and pure viewing pleasure.

The secret algorithm behind the pulse system also progressively decreases an image’s pulse over time so that new work has the opportunity to work its way up the ranks and gain visibility in the top ranks of the popular images section.

Very similarly to the way the Explore system works on Flickr, a catch-22 situation exists where in order for one’s images to gain popularity, one’s images must have achieved some level of popularity in the first place.

One naturally needs to upload powerful, evocative, technically excellent images which will attract attention in the first place, but to my mind it seems that there is more to an imaging achieving popularity and visibility than that pure approach alone.

The first issue is timing.  Images need to be uploaded early in the ‘day’ — and I use the term loosely, because it is not known (to me at least) when the ‘day’ (ie, a 24-hour period) begins.  The site is Canadian, but naturally as it attracts members from all over the world,  people’s days (and the times they have to upload images) varies.

The site unfortunately has a very controversial and unpopular ‘feature’ called disliking.  Quite opposite to liking an image, underneath the option to do so exists an explcit link titled “I don’t like this photo”.

A click of that terse link detracts from an image’s pulse, and from what I have read, a negative vote has a more significant pulse-altering impact that a positive vote.

A few minutes worth of reading the site’s support forums will quickly reveal that the dislike feature is extremely unpopular, and many people (myself included) feel that people use this to manipulate the site.  Specifically, I have heard of claims that some people whose images are increasing in popularity will go out of their way to cast a dislike vote upon competing images, so that their own images can increase in popularity to the detriment of other people’s images.

Unfortunately 500px’s staff provide the usual canned response that more or less denies that front page manipulation and vitriolic disliking exists, and that people who suspect abuse should privately email the site’s support email address.

If you ask me, I believe the practice of pulse manipulation is rampant.

Yesterday I uploaded an image which has proved to be the most popular and actively voted/faved/commented image in my gallery, and it very quickly rose through the ranks. What I noticed in addition to all the positive responses was that it received three dislike votes, which pushed it further down the ranks.

What I also noticed yesterday was that another image came almost out of nowhere, very rapidly gaining a higher ranking than mine, and later slipping back by a significant amount.  I strongly suspect that some people did not like the surge of popularity that image achieved, and went about casting dislike votes to cut the ‘tall poppy’ down.  I was as surprised to see its dramatic fall as its monumental rise.

Personally I believe that kind of behaviour is disgusting, and an extremely low, vile act.  One should achieve merit through one’s own achievements, not due to manipulation or sabotaging of other people’s achievements.

While there are many images on 500px that I don’t personally like (art is subjective, after all), I would never seek to actively cast a dislike vote against them.  I’d rather spend my time clicking on something I do like, rather than engaging in what I consider to be a childish, detrimental act.

By all means, one need not be concerned about popularity.  I don’t consider myself to be a popular photographer, and being featured on the front page of image hosting sites, while it’s very nice and strokes the ego considerably, is not something that drives me or serves as a reason for existing on such a site.

If you can avoid all of the pulse manipulation, 500px is a fantastic site on which to maintain a gallery, and see the work of some truly fantastic photographers.  Many of my esteemed Flickr contacts also have galleries on 500px, so I follow their work on both sites.

My own approach is to be quite selective about what I upload to 500px.  Of my collection of my personal favourite images on Flickr, not even one fifth of them appear on 500px.  I want 500px to represent the best of my best work, so I am selective about what I publish.

The site also offers members the ability to sell images, but a few years ago I made the decision to discontinue selling.  Photography for me isn’t a financial motivator; it’s something about which I am passionate, and I shoot on my own terms only.  Money does not factor into it.  That’s just my personal approach.

In summary, if one is not fazed by the popularity ranking system and consequent vitriolic manipulation which I’m sure (but cannot prove) exists, 500px has a voluminous collection of outstanding images, which for a fine-art photographer subject to peaks and troughs, can provide enough inspiration to get out and shoot when life’s happenings and one’s general mood would otherwise stifle that.

Check it out.

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6 thoughts on “500px

  1. Cyron Ray Macey (@cyron)

    The focus on excellence is the reason it didn’t grab me.

    The focus and emphasis on top quality work shouldn’t be a problem, but it was, because it seemed to actively discourage posting anything that wasn’t fantastic. At least when I joined about 12 months back, there were no groups etc, so the only way to find work was to use the popularity system which produced results I frankly am not capable of, and likely will never be capable of.

    If the popularity/pulse feature were /a/ way to discover good photos, it would be ok, but as effectively the only way, it actively discourages amateur photogs like myself. When I put my work up there, it sank, never to be seen again. On flickr, I could join any one of the thousands of groups to either show my photo to people interested in that niche, or to seek feedback from a more generic group. Those groups then let me find other people who’s work I could follow and whom I made contacts (you being a classic example of that). 500px lacks (or at least lacked) all that. I felt “alone” and discouraged on 500px, something I never felt on flickr, redbubble or any of the other photography sites I’ve used over the years.

    Yes, it produces some amazing photos, but that’s not sufficient for me. The social aspect of photography is very important. I could never shoot photos purely for my own interest

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    1. Xenedis Post author

      Yes, 500px.com doesn’t seem to be a site where social networking is a consideration. There isn’t a site-based private messaging system, and there’s no way to otherwise contact a person via the site. There are no groups either.

      All you can do is link to various social media sites from your profile.

      If social interaction and a community-minded spirit is important to you, 500px.com unfortunately isn’t going to provide that.

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    1. Xenedis Post author

      Ah, but whether it’s a peer or an actual judge, at the end of the day it’s still just someone’s opinion, and the individual photographer can decide whether or not to accept that opinion.

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      1. Melissa Eluron

        Peer very rarely equates to informed.
        Try posting “dead trees in water with a stunning sunset”, peer judging will give you a winner which would be unlikely with an experienced judge.

        You can still accept or reject either opinion.

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